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Case 1: True Intentions Case 2: Premeditated Green Card Marriage Case 3: Research Questions & Answers Hi Dave, I have tried to answer the questions that you sent on. The one that you sent me the other day I stopped reading half way through. It upset me to see so many similarities and I know what the other guys are going through. I didn't tell you that on Thursday something strange happened to me. I've spent the last few days trying to figure what it was and now I know that it could only have been a panic attack. I got very confused for a few minutes, I need to find something and I got very bothered about it. It showed me that my emotional state is delicate at the moment. I felt like crying and I was wondering around in the kitchen. I didn't know what had happened to me and I didn't want to tell you on Thursday but I'm over it now and I know what it was. Hello Paul: I am gathering information of various cases that involve marriage fraud. I am in the process of putting together some anonymous case studies to post. I know in your case this is a on going thing so it is probably very much on your mind. Could you put together a reply to the questions below? This is important for me. Dave: What made you decide to go to the FSU to search for a wife? Paul: I went there to meet someone and I didn’t expect to get married but I fell in love with what I thought to be a very loyal beautiful woman that made me feel good about myself. Dave: What was your marital history? Paul: I was never married before. I had a long term 9 year relationship that broke down as nothing ever worked out for us. When we tried to get a house together it always fell through, we grew apart and separated on amicable terms. Dave: Where you in any unusual state of mind then? i.e. depression after a divorce? something else? Paul: I finally bought a house and I had no one to share in my good fortune. I have a job that pays better than most and I felt ready to settle down. Dave: What is your age and her's? Paul: Hers 24 mine 34 Dave: What was the first thing about her that attracted you to her? Her photo? (usual) Paul:Photo Dave: Did she live comfortable in Russian/Ukraine? Paul: No, she lived in a 2 room apartment sharing with her mother, aunt, uncle and their child. Dave: Did she have her own apartment and car? Paul: No Dave: What type of work did she do? Paul: She told me that she had worked in Motor Jeans part time but she was studying in an Institute so she didn’t have time for work. Dave: Did she take any foreign vacations? Where? Paul: She was never abroad but she had pictures taken on the south coast of Ukraine that she showed me. Dave: Was she married before and how many times? Paul: As far as I know she was never married Dave: What was her explanation why the marriage/relationship ended? Paul: She told me about her relationship with a German man (Frank) and how he was crazy. He didn't give her very much money and he would call her crying when he was drunk. She did give me Frank's number and he was helpful to me by way of travel advice, flights, visas, etc. I spoke to him on the phone several times. He didn't seem like such a bad guy. The only thing that she would tell me about her arab boyfriend (Ammar)was that she had no contact with him in more than 2 years before we met. That proved to be complete lies as she was only here a few days and she was contacting him. Dave: Did she express any bitterness against other men? a father? an ex-husband(s)? Paul: She did complain about Ukrainian men and how bad mannered they were and most of them were drunks. She was an only child and her parents were divorced. Dave: What is her opinion of Russian/Ukrainian men? Paul: She didn't trust Ukrainian men, they always made her feel second and not their number one (maybe I was naive and didn't understand the meaning of this at the time) now I know that she meant these men had a wife and she was the mistress being promised they would leave their wife and they never did. Dave: Did you use a introduction and translation agency? Paul: Yes. Dave: Did you communicate at first exclusively through this agency? Paul: Yes. Dave: Later? Paul: No as I found out after the agency were not giving her the flowers that I thought I was purchasing, they were splitting the money with the girls, 80% to the agency and 20% to the girls and Yuliya wanted 100% spent on her. Yuliya could email me for free from the agency and I had to pay to email her. Her English was perfect so there was no need for translators. Dave: How much were you aware of immigration fraud, scamming women and unethical agencies? Paul: I had an idea that these things were happening from reading on the net. Dave: In what way was she special over the other women to you? Paul: She made me feel good, she told me nice things about myself and I felt proud to have such a beautiful lady on my arm. As I said to my Mom on our Wedding day: Mom she makes me happy! Dave: Did you meet all of her family? Paul: No. I only met her Grandmother and she only came to discuss her money problems. Yuliya told me that is what her grandmother said for the afternoon that we met her and her grandmother asked Yuliya to translate her problems to me but Yuliya refused. Dave: Did you meet all of her friends? Paul: I would not think so. She used to talk to some friends on the phone that I know I had not met. Dave: Were they kind and receptive to you? Paul: They appeared OK but most of them did not speak English. The one that spoke English fluently turned out to be a scammer and has been taking money from several men. Dave: Or did you notice any slyness with them? Paul: The one that I found out later that she was a scammer, I found her to be sly and she had a photo album that she took out of her bag and started to show Yuliya but when I tried to look at her pictures the album was put back in her bag. Dave: Was there any unexplained absences by her? Paul: No. Dave: Did she keep you closely informed about the uses of the money you sent her? Paul: No. She just said that everything was getting more expensive. Dave: Did she restrict you in any way in your communications with her? Paul: I rang her a few times more than often during the day and she got nervous and told me not to call so often but yet when I went to visit her she would spend hours on the phone to her friends Dave: Did you over look any suspicious behavior or circumstances? Paul: Yes. Dave: What was that you over looked? Paul: Too many things, she was constantly using Arabic words as pet names, she avoided the subject of her ex Arabic boyfriend. When I asked her about scammers and did she know any at the agency I was told it was not my business. She had a lot of married boyfriends in her past and her first real boyfriend was an alcoholic. Dave: Why did you overlook it? Out of loyalty to your spouse/fiancée? Paul: I believed that I could trust her, she told me that I had nothing to fear from her and that she loved me and marriage was for life. I was head over heals in love. Dave: Looking back, does it appear she had help in her fraud? Paul: Yes. The girl that I found to be a scammer was advising her. Dave: Who do you suspect? Paul: Her friend Ilona. Dave: If you were to make a list of her attributes of character before her immigration what would it be? Paul: Loving, caring, passionate, full of energy, kind Dave: Did she act in certain ways that convinced you she had good character and motives? Paul: Yes. Dave: Such as acts of kindness to you or others? Paul: To me. She bought me presents. Dave: Did she show you a great deal of affection? Or did you notice a slight reserve or holding back in her expression in this? Paul: When I first met her there was no holding back, after a while I noticed that she did should reserve. When it came to making love she would sometimes say that we have the rest of our life to do that. Dave: If so how did you rationalize the reason for this at that time? Paul: It confused me a little, I didn’t understand why. I thought that give time it would get better. She told me that she needed to have it every day but then when I made a move I was shot down. Dave: Did you discuss her deeper feelings, her fears, her weaknesses, her dreams and her ambitions with her? Paul: Yes. She wanted to get a better education, wanted to travel and after a few years to have at least one child. Dave: Did she want to open her soul to you? Or did she do this reluctantly? Paul: No. Dave: Did you discuss these things about yourself with her? Paul: Yes. I was honest with her about everything and my past girlfriends. She was very interested in these but at 23 she had a lot more ex boyfriends than I ever had girlfriends. Dave: Did she press you for more details? Paul: Yes. Dave: Did she have any background or interest in psychology or any other psychoanalytical sciences? Paul: Not that I am aware of but it is possible that she did learn some of these at her Institute. Dave: Did she ask in detail about her place in your life? The day to day life she would have Paul: No. Dave: Did she discuss her long range future with you? Paul: No. She told me what she wanted. Dave: Did you discuss having children together? Or did she fear getting pregnant? Paul: Before we got married we discussed this and she wanted to put her first, she did not want children until she had finished her education and got a good job. After we were married this changed to ‘if you get me pregnant I will go to Ukraine to terminate’ and she would never have children. She feared getting pregnant. Dave: Did she learn English with your help? Paul: No. She was fluent before she met me. Dave: Did she express sadness or tears when you were about to leave her during the visa process? Paul: N/A She came with me after our Wedding in Ukraine. Dave: Did she sound eager to get your phone calls? Paul: Sometimes she did, other times not. She didn’t want to stay on the phone and made it like we had nothing to say to each other. Dave: Did she call you? Paul: Never, but she did send SMS. Dave: Did she want you to call her more often than you did? Paul: No. it made her nervous if I called too often. She made me feel like I was checking up on her. Dave: Did she urge you to visit her more often or just wait for the visa and save your money? Paul: She wanted me to visit more often. She said that if the visa didn’t work out that she wouldn’t wait for me forever. Dave: Was your visits occasions for shopping trips for her? Paul: Yes. Dave: Did she urge you to be careful with your money except when you spent it on her? Paul: Yes. Dave: What was she like when she first arrived? Her attributes of character, kindness, caring etc... or other? Paul: She immediately hugged me and kissed me on the cheek. When we got into a taxi she took my hand and smiled. She made it like she had known me all of her life and now we are together. Dave: What is she like now with this? Paul: Complete opposite. She only cares about herself and her needs. Dave: Did she tone down her clothing, hair and makeup around you immediately upon arrival? Paul: No. Dave: Did she tone down her affection towards you immediately upon arrival? What about Now? Paul: Yes. Now it is non existant, we live apart. She has my house and I had to move to my parents. Dave: How does she treat your family and friends? Paul: She will accept anything they do for her as normal but will not do anything for them. Dave: Does she go out dancing alone without you? Her explanation as to why? Paul: Yes. She wanted to be alone with her girls. Dave: Does she seem to be "networking" with other's in the immigrant community? Paul: Yes. She has 2 female Lithuanian friends that I know of and 1 RW Dave: Does she have a book of names and phone numbers? Paul: Yes. Dave: Have you met any of her new friends? Paul: Yes. Dave: What do you sense about them? Do they seem to like you? Paul: I sense apprehension from them. Yuliya told me plenty of bad things about them so I’m very sure that she is telling them lots of bad things about me. Dave: Do you suspect that she has hidden friends? Paul: Yes. Dave: Does your wife hide her communications from you? Paul: Yes. But I placed a key logger on her computer and found her sending erotic pictures of herself to another man, getting him to show his ‘tool’ to her on his webcam and treating him as a boyfriend, telling him I miss u, I love you, can’t wait to see you, you are so handsome (used to say all of these things to me) Dave: What is it that surprised you the most about her after her arrival? Paul: Her attitude to my country, Ukraine was a much better place. Dave: What is a good example of the most selfish and coldest thing she has done? Paul: Besides constantly depriving me of sleep, she told me that my stomach was a ‘hanging hunya (bad Russian word)’ and that we can only have sex in bed with the lights out, she couldn’t stand to look at me, I disgusted her. I was the same weight as when I married her… Dave: In contrast,what is the kindest and most caring thing she has done for you? Paul: My mind is so twisted toward the bad that I can’t remember any. Dave: Do you fear that a false Domestic Violence charge is a possibility with her? Paul: Yes. She has threatened me with knifes before. She has also attempted to harm herself with a knife. Dave: Has she ever exhibited any "go ahead make my day" attitude with you? Paul: Yes. Dave: Has she ever told you information about legal immigration matters that made you surprised she had this knowledge? Paul: Yes. She spent hours researching on the internet but she took only the points that she wanted to see, in her eyes I have no rights. A lot of the things that she told me would be dis-information and untrue but because she read them she believed that they were true. Dave: Has the subject of abuse ever been discussed with her? Paul: Yes. She started telling me that I was emotionally abusing her and that she had enough evidence for the court. This was only a few days before she found out that I had applied for annulment. I am not an abuser, physically or emotionally. 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